"I have to be careful, because I don't want to belittle it in any way, but I wasn't brought up around it," he said. "When I started training, it wasn't like I had to win the Derby. I always hoped we would go there with the right horses, and the first two times I did it, maybe I didn't have the right horses. But no, I certainly wasn't driven to be there every year. I only wanted to be there for the right reasons."