In October 2013 citizen Donald Trump explained to television host Greta Van Susteren what President Barack Obama needed to do to avoid a government shutdown. “So tell me,” asked Van Susteren, “if you were president, what would you do?” Trump answered, “You have to get everybody in a room. You have to be a leader. The president has to lead. He has to get everybody else in a room, and they have to make a deal.” Trump went on to say that “Unfortunately, [Obama] has never been a dealmaker.” Then, as president, Trump went on to preside over the longest government shutdown in history.