"Toward the end of session, they're so incredibly busy, it's very hard to make an appointment," he said. "They know when the bell rings they've got to walk over from their office or from committee over to the session. ... You wait outside the committee room when they're done. It's on their schedule. They know they're walking over with lobbyist so-and-so. ... The point is, I've got to be able to walk, and walk at their pace. I can't say, 'Excuse me, senator. Can you slow down? I'm too fat to walk.'