'The Good Wife' creators and stars discuss shocking twist, show's future

'The Good Wife' creators and stars discuss shocking twist, show's future
Charlie Rose moderates a screening and discussion with "Good Wife" executive producers and creators Robert and Michelle King, actress Julianna Margulies and actor Josh Charles at the Ed Sullivan Theater on March 26 in New York. (John Paul Filo / CBS)

While the rest of the country -- or so it seems -- is still in mourning over the tragic death of Will Gardner in Sunday's episode of "The Good Wife," at least one woman sees opportunity in his untimely passing.

As Josh Charles explained in a conversation with series creators Michelle and Robert King and co-star Julianna Margulies on Wednesday night at New York's Ed Sullivan Theater, the reaction to his character's demise has been touching and heartfelt -- not unlike attending his own funeral. There was, however, one notable exception.


Shortly after the episode aired, Charles received an email this week from an eager realtor who recently sold an apartment in his building. It read, "'So sorry to hear this news. I was so devastated by the episode. Does this mean you're moving back to L.A.?'"  Charles' response? "I was, like, that is some chutzpah!" The actor wrote her back, politely suggesting she was being a bit overly aggressive -- but, hey, sounds as if she'd make a great character on the show.

The discussion followed a preview screening of this Sunday's episode depicting the aftermath of Will's death (spoiler alert: It's intense) and was moderated by Charlie Rose. Here are some other things we learned:

Charles decided to leave the series because he felt "a little fried."

The actor began to contemplate leaving when his contract was up for renewal last year. (As he was eager to emphasize, he was not let out of a contract.) Here's how he explained his rationale: "It coincided to the same time I was proposing to my wife. I'm now married, and I did a lot of soul searching," he said. "It's a very long season doing network television, and somewhere in year four I felt a little burned out.... I felt a little fried. And I was ready for something different. That's no reflection on how I feel about the show. It's just more about what I wanted to do in my life.... The show's meant everything to me."

You can thank Margulies for convincing Charles to return this season at all. The actress learned in March 2013 that Charles wasn't going to renew. Since the rest of the season had been mapped out at that point, writing Will out of the series in a thoughtful way would have been virtually impossible. "It kind have meant his character was just going to disappear, or someone was just going to talk about him leaving, and I couldn't accept that," Margulies said. "He's been such an integral part of the show. I felt like if this is going to happen, we're going to do it right."

So Margulies embraced her inner Alicia Florrick and called Charles to negotiate. She gave the actor what she called "terrible Jew guilt":  "I said, 'Josh, how about this?' Fifteen episodes, money in the bank. Do you know how expensive it is to have a baby in New York? I went right to the kid thing. It was disgusting, honestly.... We were looking into kindergarten for our son at the time, and I was like, 'Do you know how much private school is?' And I went into this whole thing about kids and family. And he was like, 15, let me think about that. And I said, 'Two directing slots.' Then I hung up."

Once they knew Charles was leaving, the writing staff looked at George Clooney's last season on "ER" and were "slaves to 'Breaking Bad' " in order to plot Will's exit. But the tricky part is that, unlike "Breaking Bad," "The Good Wife" has to fill a 22-episode season.

So the Kings decided to trick the audience into thinking "Willicia" would reunite at the end of Season 5. As Robert King explained, the show structures each season around two pivotal events. The first big story this year was Alicia leaving to start her own firm in Episode 5, creating a rift with Will. The Kings knew that the second major event of the season would be his death but threw viewers off the scent by planting the seeds for a reconciliation between the characters. "One of the things we played to was the audience's expectation of a character arc. We want the sense that Alicia and Will, the arc of the year was that they were going to get back together," Robert King said. "The magician thinks in terms of what he wants the audience to think, but we knew really the undercurrent is that Will was going to die, and the second half of the year is dealing with Alicia's dismay about her life, her career." How cruel!

The writers and critics agree: This has been a banner season for "The Good Wife." Asked whether the show has been especially good this season, as is the overwhelming consensus among TV critics, Michelle King agreed. "I think this has been a little bit of a special season, perhaps because we were taking bigger chances. The splitting up of the firm, losing Will -- those were bigger moves than we've ever attempted in the past." It also helped that CBS Entertainment chairman Nina Tassler gave the Kings the go-ahead to write episodes that didn't involve a case of the week -- a big allowance for the procedural-loving network.

If you're really upset about Will, just let Charles know on Twitter. He might even call to console you. On Sunday night, Charles was in the editing room working on an upcoming episode of "The Good Wife" he directed. As the reaction to his character's death lit up the Internet, he got a message from a Twitter friend whose mother was completely overcome with grief at the news. So Charles did what surely any major network TV star would do: He called her. "We had a really nice chat," he said. "She was devastated, but I talked her through it."


Network TV is going to have to change if it wants to keep with cable. Everyone on the panel had plenty to say about the difficulties of producing 22 episodes a year for a broadcast network, compared with the more limited eight to 12 that are typical on cable. "Network TV is going to have a hard time keeping up with cable except in this limited-series way," Robert King said. The trickiest part of churning out so many scripts, added Michelle King, "is not turning into melodrama. You can't keep upping the stakes without it leaving reality." Margulies weighed in, suggesting that as along as the show is up against cable series with more limited seasons, "we're always going to be the underdog." So how long would an ideal season be, Charles wondered. Robert King was ready with an answer: 15 episodes.

Gwyneth Paltrow's could divorce inspire a future episode. Robert King explained how the writing staff treats each episode a little like a magazine, building each case of the week around events in the news -- like, to cite a very recent example, they could write a storyline about a "conscious uncoupling," like Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin's. That prompted Margulies to ask, "Can me and the governor have a conscious uncoupling?" referring of course to her character's marriage to Illinois Gov. Peter Florrick (Chris Noth). Now there's an idea plenty of fans of "The Good Wife" can get behind. 

Hunter Parrish is having a rough week. The actor who plays Will's deranged killer, Jeffrey Grant, was in the audience at the Ed Sullivan Theater and said he's "now in hiding from the Internet."

Right now is "great time for women in television," according to Margulies. "I just applaud any television show that has a decimal of success with a woman at the helm, because everyone is always saying how this business is a man's business, but look at TV. We are in such a rich time for women. And -- hello -- yeah, women watch it. Finally people are waking up and understanding that."

And, most important of all in light of recent events, Margulies is not even close to sick of playing Alicia. "I feel like I landed in a pot of gold. It's such a rare thing to get a second chance at such a great role. I'm playing a character I truly love," she said.


In the wake of Will's death, Margulies is looking forward to the next chapter in Alicia's development: "A death ... is a game-changer, and it makes you, hopefully, a better person for it. I think you'll see this tremendous loss for her, but the choices she makes from then on are incredibly careful."