Well, I had been involved with the youth section of the NAACP under Lillie Carroll Jackson as a teenager, so I knew about the protests, and my parents participated in them trying to break down segregation of the theaters, Ford’s Theater and the Hippodrome. And then on to some other segregation issues, including trying to get the stores, like Hutzler’s and [Hochschild Kohn], to open their doors and allow blacks to not just come in and buy—that was the first step—but the second step was to allow them to try on shoes, try on clothes, and be able to return them. . . . Well, in 1954 when they desegregated the schools, I was a Morgan [State College] student, and we were all very much aware of civil rights and that we could break down segregation barriers if we tried.