MT: Yeah, that was—I mean it's a miracle when you're trying to make a low-budget movie, which it still was—for me, it was way bigger, more money than anything I've ever worked with before—but it really started with Susan Sarandon. And when we thought about doing the mentor character, the Mr. Miyagi, we just thought it would be more interesting to make it a female because those roles are always played by the unshaven alcoholic guy. So it's like, how can we do this a little bit differently? And then when we were thinking about what actress of that sort of age range has won an Oscar, another great actor who can do drama and comedy, and then also who happens to be the co-owner of a ping pong franchise, and Susan Sarandon's name was at the top of the list. I don't know if you know that. She's the co-owner of SPiN, a ping-pong franchise. So that was kind of our in, but the reality was I wrote Jay Duplass, who's a filmmaker friend, and I asked him—I kind of vetted her, you know, I just prefer to work with people who are friendly and on the level and aren't gonna sort of poison the crew and the atmosphere, because I wanted it to be a really fun shoot, especially since we were working with kids who had never acted onscreen before. I just did not want to have some sort of awkward hierarchy or anything. And Jay vouched for Susan and said she was awesome to work with. And then he vouched for us. He reached out to her with the script and the project and just said, "A friend's making a movie," and then when Susan came on board, I think it made the project seem a lot more real and enabled us to reach out to, like, a John Hannah, an Amy Sedaris, and a Lea Thompson, to get them on board. And then I think they just sort of responded to the material, thought it could be a fun movie, and here we are, you know? It's like really cool to see the poster. I forget, and then I'll look at the poster and be like, "Oh wait, that's Ping Pong Summer and it has all those big names on it. That's really cool."