When he thinks about going away for the next 15 years, his sorrow at missing his kids growing up quickly turns to anger at the police. "You got a seven- and a 9-year-old saying 'Daddy, you going to be home for Christmas?' My daughter having a hard time, she gotta go to therapy. She's nine. She can't sleep. She grasp it because her father ain't going to be around. I don't care what you do to me. When that shit affects my kids, we got a problem." His tone shifts from his typically mild voice to an edgy anger. "Like me and this lawyer really got a problem," he says, referring to his first attorney, who he feels represented him poorly in court. Then he turns his sites on the cops. "Me and this police, both of them, the sergeant too, we got a problem. The justice system, we have a problem. That's why I say fuck this court system. Fuck the police. Y'all can put me on record for saying that shit. Once you start affecting my kids, no."