In both cases, their trade partners' demands are, at this point, too steep for the Orioles, according to an industry source.
Orioles executive vice president Dan Duquette's focus this offseason has been to upgrade the club's pitching, add organizational depth and begin to retool the farm system.
He's said he'd like to continue to improve the team's major league roster before spring training opens next month. And I believe Duquette will make at least one trade before camp opens.
Duquette has set a high bar for the club, saying he wants this year's team to be a .500 club, but the Orioles won't -- and can't afford -- to trade their top prospects to get there. And at this point, their farm system doesn't have enough prospect depth to offer other organizations much trade bait.
Trade talks can always speed up quickly, but at this point, it seems like the Orioles are far from a deal.