Zack Wheat is remembered frequently in a town in the middle of Missouri, his great-grandson often pulling out a Bull Durham cigar pin bearing the likeness of the most prolific hitter in Dodgers franchise history.
"He was such a kind man, such a great man, and he always considered the Dodgers his family," Zack Alan Wheat said.
Dazzy Vance is remembered frequently in a town in west central Florida, a photo of him standing in Ebbets Field hanging proudly in the middle of his grandson's living room.
"Grandad loved the Dodgers, he lived for the Dodgers, that's who he was," Chuck Williams said.
They are two Hall of Famers whose names fill the Dodgers' record books, whose Cooperstown plaques bear Dodgers caps, whose accomplishments are celebrated as Dodgers history seemingly everywhere but the place that mattered to them most.
Zack Wheat and Dazzy Vance have somehow been forgotten by the Dodgers.
There is no trace of them among the outfield pavilion display of the team's 10 retired numbers, which include nine Hall of Famers plus Jim Gilliam. Their jerseys are not among the framed Hall of Fame jerseys that line a corridor outside the Dodgers' clubhouse. There is no sign of them amid the giant number statues outside the entrance to the upper deck.
While Vance's 1924 most-valuable-player award is replicated in a collection of Dodgers honors outside the dugout club, there is no individual memorial for him or Wheat anywhere in the stadium. The only other Dodgers Hall of Fame player or manager missing from Chavez Ravine is Leo Durocher, but he won more than 500 games with three different teams and is remembered mostly for managing the New York Giants.
Wheat and Vance earned their immortality strictly through the Brooklyn Dodgers, putting up numbers over 30 combined seasons that are still stunning today.
Wheat, an outfielder from 1909-1926, has played more games than anyone in Dodgers history and remains the franchise leader in hits, doubles, triples and total bases.
Vance, a Dodgers pitcher from 1922-1932 and 1935, ranks in the team's top five in wins, strikeouts, complete games and innings pitched. He also led the league in strikeouts for seven consecutive seasons, a record that probably will never be broken.
They are players who helped once carry this Dodgers franchise, yet they are players whose memories can no longer call it home.
"The Dodgers moved to California, my great-grandfather died, and they forgot him," said Zack Alan Wheat.
The Vance family hurts perhaps even more because, after Dazzy died in 1961, his wife Edythe burned most of his memorabilia in a backyard bonfire during a grief-stricken rage.
"We really don't have that much left of Grandad's stuff," Williams said. "It's sad. I wish people knew more about him."
A cheeky explanation for the Dodgers snub is that they couldn't retire Wheat and Vance's numbers because they played before baseball uniforms began containing numbers in the mid-1930s. Yet four other teams have all honored ancient Hall of Famers with no numbers by simply putting their names and team abbreviations on outfield walls. If the San Francisco Giants can celebrate Christy Mathewson, why can't the Dodgers honor Wheat and Vance?
This question actually took current Dodgers officials by surprise, as some of them were not even aware Wheat and Vance were in the Hall of Fame. They eventually said they would honor them, but stopped short of promising a place in the outfield.
"The Dodgers recognize the importance of the rich history of this organization — one of the enhancements this year is the various displays in and outside the stadium recognizing our history and Dodger greats," said Lon Rosen, the team's executive vice president and chief marketing officer. "We hope to one day have a Dodger Hall of Fame here at Dodger Stadium; Zach Wheat and Dazzy Vance were great Dodgers and they certainly will be recognized."
Why not do it now? Why not do it where it counts? There is room for at least five more numbers under the roof of the outfield pavilions. Why not do it there?
Heck, how did they ever slip through the cracks in the first place?