"We don't have to explain ourselves to each other," Win'E said.
"Sometimes I do have a bad day," Pollard said. "Just sadness."
"You miss your kid," Win'E said.
For all they share, their sons died in dramatically different ways. Win'E's son was killed in an IED explosion while in a convoy. Pollard's son died when his sergeant's gun accidentally discharged.
I asked Pollard if that makes the loss more difficult, and a look of both sadness and forgiveness surfaced in her eyes.
"My heart went out to the soldier who killed my son," said Pollard, who hopes to one day meet him and try to ease whatever pain he may be suffering. "He didn't do it on purpose. It wasn't malicious. He adored my son, and he has to live with that for the rest of his life."
Later this year Pollard and Win'E will assemble the millionth care package they and other moms have sent to service men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan. They make and send blankets to military hospitals, too, and in summer, they send cooling vests to faraway deserts.
This they do in the names of Army Spcs. Justin W. Pollard and Trevor A. Win'E.