"Just blows me away," he said.

Hilton replied: "That's one reason why we're moving to waste transfer, so we don't have high landfill expenses in the future."

Guthrie also pointed out that Harford is apparently leading every county in the state with recyclables.

"If we're doing that and we're leading the state by two to one [in recycling], why do we need to soak $30 million of taxpayers money into a plant we may not need?" he asked. "I don't think anybody in this room really knows what [the Army is] going to do in 2016."


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"The only thing we've accomplished is tripling our trucks [in traffic], getting a $30 million facility we don't need and putting a facility into an overcrowded intersection," he continued. "That's what our citizens have to look forward to."

"I'm going to do everything I can to stop it," Guthrie said. "No one has convinced me to this point that we need this."

Gloria Moon, a member of the citizens' budget committee and a Joppa resident and Joppa Community Council member, said the public works department should have first approached with a proposal to amend the solid waste management plan.

"The process if flawed. You've done it backward, in my opinion," Moon said. "To come to the council and say, 'Just give me the money and we'll talk about that later,' is putting the cart before the horse."

Guthrie added: "Us appropriating this allocation to this project does not give you the authority for this project. You would still have to come before us to ask the waste management plan to be amended or even possibly put the landfill in another place."

Woods, however, said the capital budget mentions the specific district the facility would be in.

"What bothers me is on the page it says 'District A' and locks it into this area," he said.

Boniface replied: "I guess we'd have to do a memorandum of change to move it to another location."