Oh, man. Why was he so late? Oh, why was he so late. Maybe he was doing mushrooms before he showed up? Is that an option? I love that moment when he’s pushing the buttons and the elevator won’t close because that’s what happens in real life! When you’re trying to get somewhere in a hurry, it feels like the world is working against you. That’s what is so great about the writing. It’s a fun moment. That adrenaline.
The elevators at Lockhart/Gardner are their own character. So much goes down in them. And it makes me sad, because nothing like that happens here at work! The most exciting thing is maybe me spilling coffee or avoiding eye contact.
My personal experiences in elevators is just trying to be absolutely quiet and getting off as soon as possible. I have not had those experiences we’ve had on the show. It’s like one of the most awkward places to be -- the elevator.
Were you disappointed Cary wasn’t there to witness Will taking his anger out on a desk? Cary, of course, has his own showdown with Diana, but no office furniture was manhandled.
I was kind of bummed Cary missed the clearing of the desk. The relationship between Will and Alicia is intense -- you don't want to get in the middle of that. And then there’s the relationship with Cary and Diane. And that’s the one Cary must endure when he gets off the elevator. I think she was in a lot of ways his mentor, so I kind of love that you see Alicia have it out with Will, and Cary have it out with Diane. It’s fun to have that dichotomy there, the new Will and Diane battling it out with the old Will and Diane. I think it was great the way they play both of those partners against each other without having seen the other.
That Cary-Diane confrontation is its own thing. We see Cary, who is always so damn calm and cool, totally caught off guard, letting little details slip. He’s off his game.
It’s an incredibly unique moment. He knows at this point that people are getting fired. And she’s there and she’s caught him -- she has his computer in her hands. It’s an incredibly rare moment for Cary where he knows that this is the end, he know that they’re not going to get their bonuses, he knows that he is about to get fired. It’s an emotional moment, and you’re right, you don’t really get to see Cary expressing much anger or being flustered, so that was one thing I loved about the scene. You see a different side of Cary in that moment.
Do you -- Matt -- think Cary and Alicia were shady in their actions?
Well, I think in terms of the way that Cary sees it, he was fired the first time from the firm. He came back to the firm and was overlooked for a partnership. He was promised partnership and then it was taken away from him. It happened in episode 13 last year, "Red Team, Blue Team." From that point forward, there’s no love lost for Cary in terms of his loyalty because they haven’t shown him any loyalty. As for me, I can certainly understand why Cary would feel slighted. I, as Matt, can certainly understand why he would want to go out on his own. In terms of the way he handled it, trying to stay as long as possible underneath their noses -- that, I can’t lie, would probably be the way I would handle it, too.
Now: Kalinda. Kalinda. Kalinda. Cary has always had a soft spot for her. And in Sunday’s episode we see how she uses that to her advantage to help Will with intel. But is she really Team Will or Team Cary & Alicia, do you think?
I think what’s going to happen is the key to the storyline for Cary and Kalinda, is that they are going to use each other for information now being on opposite sides. In terms of the soft spot, neither one of them is intimidated by the other. They’re both very competitive and they both look out for their own ambitions. They’re very similar in a lot of ways, I think that’s why they’ve always had a soft spot for one another.
Let’s talk about the fourth-years. They are, uh, sort of a disaster -- very eager and very green, to a fault sometimes. How soon before Cary regrets this decision?
I think part of the first chunk of storylines when they start this new firm [shows that] it's tough. It's tough to get these clients. It's tough to get money. That’s going to wear on people. They’re still forming who they are. That is a concern. ... Who is going to be there when all things are said and done with Florrick/Agos?
What about the other Cary -- Carey. What’s the deal there?
I kind of look at that relationship as a brother relationship. There was one scene in episode three that we filmed that was cut from that episode that I think kind of shed a little more light on that relationship. But in terms of their names being the same, at this point, it hasn’t revealed itself into any major plot point. He’s one of the best four years that’s coming along with the group.
Also, can we talk about Howard Lyman and his pant problems?
Jerry Aldman [who plays Howard] is truly brilliant and hilarious. He’s been in so many classic TV shows. He’s so good in that role. I loved watching that storyline with him in the last episode. Come on, guy, leave your pants on!
And of course Cary had a hand in it.
A harmless prank that turned into something bigger. Oops.
Last thing: Cary checking out Grace. How awkward was that for you?Uh, yeahhhh. I have known Mackenzie and Graham since I think they were probably 14. Mackenzie and I definitely laughed about it because we’ve known each other for a long time. I promise, I am not a perv.